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Ballot clarifications
- To: MOON%SCRC-TENEX@mit-mc
- Subject: Ballot clarifications
- From: Scott E. Fahlman <Fahlman@CMU-CS-C>
- Date: Tue, 31 May 1983 05:33:00 -0000
- Cc: common-lisp@su-ai
- In-reply-to: Msg of 30 May 1983 16:44-EDT from MOON at SCRC-TENEX
A couple of things that you asked about in your ballot:
You ask whether, if *IBASE* (or *READ-BASE*) is > 10, some things that
would otherwise be symbols would be read in as numbers. I think that
the guiding philosophy here should be the one you proposed: *IBASE* is
for reading in data files through the Lisp reader (and maybe for
compatibility packages) and not for code. In a compatibility package
(for code from Maclisp or @i[Cadropithecus robustus]), the issue does
not arise, since the IBASE in question is octal. In reading data, the
rule should be that if it can be parsed into a number in the current
*IBASE*, it will be; else it is a symbol.
On the GET-REAL-TIME proposal, I'm afraid I didn't explain this very
well. GET-UNIVERSAL-TIME is meant to produce a number that can be
decoded to find the current date and time in absolute terms. This might
take a while to get, so it's useful for finding the current time of day
but not for fine-grained measurement of elapsed time. GET-INTERNAL-TIME
and GET-REAL-TIME are relative times expressed in "internal-time"
format. These are for timing various executions but do not give you any
absolute time. You call one of them twice, subtract, and then divide by
INTERNAL-TIME-UNITS-PER-SECOND to get the elapsed time in seconds. The
number of units per second is chosen to give a reasonable balance
between clock accuracy and fixnum size on a given implementation: the S1
needs a granularity of picoseconds and the Perq can get by with seconds.
My proposal is simply that sometimes you want elapsed runtime and
sometimes you want elapsed clock-on-the-wall time. I was going to
propose calling these GET-ELAPSED-RUNTIME and GET-ELAPSED-REALTIME, but
each call to these functions returns only a single point, not an
interval, so that would be misleading also.
-- Scott